Comments on: Time to throw away your Nalgene bottles http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/ Blogging on climbing, bouldering, mountaineering, and training. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:17:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: New Study Links Higher BPA Levels to Drinking From Polycarbonate Water Bottles — All Climbing http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-295220 New Study Links Higher BPA Levels to Drinking From Polycarbonate Water Bottles — All Climbing Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:25:29 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-295220 [...] RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!A new Harvard study confirms the health risks associated with BPA in polycarbonate water bottles. We found that drinking cold liquids from polycarbonate bottles for just one week increased urinary [...] [...] RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!A new Harvard study confirms the health risks associated with BPA in polycarbonate water bottles. We found that drinking cold liquids from polycarbonate bottles for just one week increased urinary [...]

]]> By: Top Posts on All Climbing for 2008 - All Climbing http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-266987 Top Posts on All Climbing for 2008 - All Climbing Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:32:04 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-266987 [...] Time to throw away your Nalgene bottles [...] [...] Time to throw away your Nalgene bottles [...]

]]> By: Ryan http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-194058 Ryan Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:48:38 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-194058 Thanks for the info it seems interesting. Thanks for the info it seems interesting.

]]> By: Tony C http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-189479 Tony C Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:58:23 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-189479 For the outdoorsy folks, check out the titan water bottle - it's made with bpa free tritan material and is great for outdoors activities cause it has a built in carabiner and can be used with only one hand. The inventor lives in Bozeman, MT (near me) and I guess he made it for biking, hiking, climbing, and backpacking though my wife might order one for our stroller :) More info at www.titanwaterbottle.com For the outdoorsy folks, check out the titan water bottle – it’s made with bpa free tritan material and is great for outdoors activities cause it has a built in carabiner and can be used with only one hand. The inventor lives in Bozeman, MT (near me) and I guess he made it for biking, hiking, climbing, and backpacking though my wife might order one for our stroller :)

More info at http://www.titanwaterbottle.com

]]> By: Lily http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-189458 Lily Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:43:45 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-189458 Check out information on the bpa free water bottle for climbing called the Tritan water bottle. http://hubpages.com/hub/climbinggear Check out information on the bpa free water bottle for climbing called the Tritan water bottle.

http://hubpages.com/hub/climbinggear

]]> By: Billy http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-186041 Billy Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:05:35 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-186041 It's best to educate ourselves! More reading on Bisphenol A (BPA) in water bottles, baby bottles, can liners, etc. http://hubpages.com/hub/Bisphenol-A-in-Plastic-Bottles-Play-It-Safe-with-Alternatives http://www.squidoo.com/bisphenol-A It’s best to educate ourselves! More reading on Bisphenol A (BPA) in water bottles, baby bottles, can liners, etc.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Bisphenol-A-in-Plastic-Bottles-Play-It-Safe-with-Alternatives

http://www.squidoo.com/bisphenol-A

]]> By: Ben http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-185923 Ben Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:13:45 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-185923 As others have said, the Recycling Symbol number 7 does not mean "contains BPA" it means "Other" plastic - as in either a combination of the plastics used in 1-6 or another plastic not listed under numbers 1-6. The panic about BPA has led to the unfortunate "All #7 plastics are bad" assessment, which simply isn't accurate. Avoid BPA by all means - and do it by acquiring new bottles that are labeled as "BPA Free" by their manufacturers. Plastics by their very nature are... plastic - molecularly a lot more changeable than other materials. We'll likely be figuring out all kinds of interesting leaching over the next 50 years as we understand plastics better. Don't expect BPA to be the last problem. You should be using glass or ceramic (yep both breakable) if you want something truly stable and nonreactive. As others have said, the Recycling Symbol number 7 does not mean “contains BPA” it means “Other” plastic – as in either a combination of the plastics used in 1-6 or another plastic not listed under numbers 1-6.

The panic about BPA has led to the unfortunate “All #7 plastics are bad” assessment, which simply isn’t accurate. Avoid BPA by all means – and do it by acquiring new bottles that are labeled as “BPA Free” by their manufacturers.

Plastics by their very nature are… plastic – molecularly a lot more changeable than other materials. We’ll likely be figuring out all kinds of interesting leaching over the next 50 years as we understand plastics better. Don’t expect BPA to be the last problem. You should be using glass or ceramic (yep both breakable) if you want something truly stable and nonreactive.

]]> By: Unlucky Number 7 « TheWheat Field http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-185014 Unlucky Number 7 « TheWheat Field Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:58:13 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-185014 [...] Time to throw away your Nalgene bottles Polycarbonate contains a chemical called bisphenol A (BPA) which has been linked to numerous health problems including breast and prostate cancer, brain damage, endocrine system disruptions, higher levels of testosterone in men and women, recurrent miscarriages, and chromosomal defects in fetuses.…..HOW DO I KNOW IF MY BOTTLE HAS BISPHENOL A IN IT?Look on the bottom of the bottle for a number surrounded by three arrows. Polycarbonate bottles are categorized as number seven. Note that seven is the catchall “other” category for plastics—all polycarbonates are seven, not all sevens are polycarbonates. [...] [...] Time to throw away your Nalgene bottles Polycarbonate contains a chemical called bisphenol A (BPA) which has been linked to numerous health problems including breast and prostate cancer, brain damage, endocrine system disruptions, higher levels of testosterone in men and women, recurrent miscarriages, and chromosomal defects in fetuses.…..HOW DO I KNOW IF MY BOTTLE HAS BISPHENOL A IN IT?Look on the bottom of the bottle for a number surrounded by three arrows. Polycarbonate bottles are categorized as number seven. Note that seven is the catchall “other” category for plastics—all polycarbonates are seven, not all sevens are polycarbonates. [...]

]]> By: Gear Review: the humangear capCAP - All Climbing http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-178390 Gear Review: the humangear capCAP - All Climbing Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:56:17 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-178390 [...] the recent Nalgene and BPA bottle scare, I decided to start replacing my collection of water bottles. To be honest, I hadn’t [...] [...] the recent Nalgene and BPA bottle scare, I decided to start replacing my collection of water bottles. To be honest, I hadn’t [...]

]]> By: Tom Markiewicz http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-160660 Tom Markiewicz Thu, 22 May 2008 14:04:46 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-160660 @Sara no, I've never tried them, sounds good though! @Ben, unfortunately, I've thrown most of my bottles in the dishwasher at one time. So I may have the heat issue with all of them. If you build that raft, send me a picture ;) @Sara no, I’ve never tried them, sounds good though!

@Ben, unfortunately, I’ve thrown most of my bottles in the dishwasher at one time. So I may have the heat issue with all of them. If you build that raft, send me a picture ;)

]]> By: Ben http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-160038 Ben Wed, 21 May 2008 13:35:29 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-160038 Nalgene is discontinuing the BPA bottles to err on the side of safety, but I'm not going to throw away my bottles just yet. From my understanding, chemical leeching is predominant in old bottles and those exposed to heat. So no dishwasher and no hot beverages, and I'm not gonna sweat it for the time being. At any rate, it's premature and a tad wasteful to just toss them. They were designed for lab use and have a ton of household and outdoor uses beyond serving as water bottles. I'm going to collect everyone's unwanted bottles and make a raft, myself. Nalgene is discontinuing the BPA bottles to err on the side of safety, but I’m not going to throw away my bottles just yet. From my understanding, chemical leeching is predominant in old bottles and those exposed to heat. So no dishwasher and no hot beverages, and I’m not gonna sweat it for the time being. At any rate, it’s premature and a tad wasteful to just toss them. They were designed for lab use and have a ton of household and outdoor uses beyond serving as water bottles. I’m going to collect everyone’s unwanted bottles and make a raft, myself.

]]> By: Sara http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-156600 Sara Thu, 15 May 2008 14:27:01 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-156600 Oooh, I could be hijacking this comment thread, so apologies if so -- but have you tried the Glaceau VitaminEnergy beverages? I like the Dragonfruit. I'm not a "sweet stuff" girl but I am a caffeine addict, so on climbing mornings sans camp stove and coffee I need some kind of caffeine kick. I have, on occasion, chosen the withdrawal-headache over a Red Bull or Rock Star, but I dig the VitaminEnergy. About 1/2 a can on an empty stomach and I'm buzzing! Oooh, I could be hijacking this comment thread, so apologies if so — but have you tried the Glaceau VitaminEnergy beverages? I like the Dragonfruit. I’m not a “sweet stuff” girl but I am a caffeine addict, so on climbing mornings sans camp stove and coffee I need some kind of caffeine kick. I have, on occasion, chosen the withdrawal-headache over a Red Bull or Rock Star, but I dig the VitaminEnergy. About 1/2 a can on an empty stomach and I’m buzzing!

]]> By: News & Notes - 05/13/2008 | Climbing Narcissist http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-155542 News & Notes - 05/13/2008 | Climbing Narcissist Tue, 13 May 2008 13:40:29 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-155542 [...] via Allclimbing is a post about the plastic used in Nalgene water bottles.  Frankly, I just find the whole situation confusing.  What, out of the things we use each day, [...] [...] via Allclimbing is a post about the plastic used in Nalgene water bottles.  Frankly, I just find the whole situation confusing.  What, out of the things we use each day, [...]

]]> By: Tom Markiewicz http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-155537 Tom Markiewicz Tue, 13 May 2008 13:31:01 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-155537 Or I'll just stick to my habit or drinking more Red Bull and coffee at the crag instead of water ;) Or I’ll just stick to my habit or drinking more Red Bull and coffee at the crag instead of water ;)

]]> By: Climbing Narcissist http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-155530 Climbing Narcissist Tue, 13 May 2008 13:01:57 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-155530 That's what I am wondering. I am assuming my current bottles are bad as they are around 8 years old. Beyond that however it was very confusing standing in the store. I did notice that the white plastic Nalgenes are Recycled #2 however there are drawbacks to those compared to the clear plastic model. I think we are just going to wait a bit and see what develops. That’s what I am wondering. I am assuming my current bottles are bad as they are around 8 years old. Beyond that however it was very confusing standing in the store.

I did notice that the white plastic Nalgenes are Recycled #2 however there are drawbacks to those compared to the clear plastic model. I think we are just going to wait a bit and see what develops.

]]> By: Tom Markiewicz http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-155527 Tom Markiewicz Tue, 13 May 2008 12:52:28 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-155527 That is confusing. I was assuming the new ones would have some marking that was more permanent. Once the sticker is removed, how will I know the difference from my old ones? That is confusing. I was assuming the new ones would have some marking that was more permanent. Once the sticker is removed, how will I know the difference from my old ones?

]]> By: Climbing Narcissist http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-155517 Climbing Narcissist Tue, 13 May 2008 11:59:53 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-155517 At our REI they still have many Nalgenes for sale. They have stickers on them saying they are BPA free but still have the Recycled #7 logo on the bottom. Confusing... At our REI they still have many Nalgenes for sale. They have stickers on them saying they are BPA free but still have the Recycled #7 logo on the bottom. Confusing…

]]> By: Mike http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-154396 Mike Sat, 10 May 2008 21:17:41 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-154396 No, Nalgene is not going to reimburse you. There is no reason for them to do so. They are changing their bottles because of media hype. From Nalgene site: " We are confident that the bottles which contain BPA are safe for their intended use. However, because of consumer requests for alternative materials, we have decided to transition our polycarbonate product line to Eastman Tritan™ copolyester. This product joins our family of bottles and containers made of various non-BPA materials such as HDPE, PP, LDPE and PET." Another FAQ on their site: Question: Are polycarbonate bottles safe? Answer: Yes. Agencies and researchers worldwide have studied the safety of BPA and polycarbonate for approximately 50 years; including The Environmental Protection Agency and The Food and Drug Administration in the USA, The European Commission Scientific Committee on Food, The German Federal Institute for Risk Assessment and the Japan Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare. Findings of studies from these agencies indicate that food and beverage containers manufactured from polycarbonate do not pose a health risk to humans. Polycarbonate is used in a wide variety of consumer products including baby bottles, water bottles, dental sealants and the lining of most metal food and beverage containers and has been for over 45 years. No, Nalgene is not going to reimburse you. There is no reason for them to do so. They are changing their bottles because of media hype.

From Nalgene site: ” We are confident that the bottles which contain BPA are safe for their intended use. However, because of consumer requests for alternative materials, we have decided to transition our polycarbonate product line to Eastman Tritan™ copolyester. This product joins our family of bottles and containers made of various non-BPA materials such as HDPE, PP, LDPE and PET.”

Another FAQ on their site:
Question: Are polycarbonate bottles safe?
Answer: Yes. Agencies and researchers worldwide have studied the safety of BPA and polycarbonate for approximately 50 years; including The Environmental Protection Agency and The Food and Drug Administration in the USA, The European Commission Scientific Committee on Food, The German Federal Institute for Risk Assessment and the Japan Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare. Findings of studies from these agencies indicate that food and beverage containers manufactured from polycarbonate do not pose a health risk to humans. Polycarbonate is used in a wide variety of consumer products including baby bottles, water bottles, dental sealants and the lining of most metal food and beverage containers and has been for over 45 years.

]]> By: Tom Markiewicz http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-153997 Tom Markiewicz Fri, 09 May 2008 11:58:10 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-153997 Michael, that's a good question, but I highly doubt it. Unless we see some direct links to issues caused specifically by Nalgene bottles and a class action suit ensues, we're all out of luck. I hear you though - I own five Nalgene bottles that I'll need to replace. Michael, that’s a good question, but I highly doubt it. Unless we see some direct links to issues caused specifically by Nalgene bottles and a class action suit ensues, we’re all out of luck. I hear you though – I own five Nalgene bottles that I’ll need to replace.

]]> By: Michael http://www.allclimbing.com/archive/2008/05/time-to-throw-away-your-nalgene-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-153862 Michael Fri, 09 May 2008 03:46:01 +0000 http://www.allclimbing.com/?p=380#comment-153862 So is Nalgene going to reimburse me for the cost of new bottles ? So is Nalgene going to reimburse me for the cost of new bottles ?

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